The sexual immorality in fabric of society was shocking. Not only were children encouraged to experiment sexually, the most primal aspects of human indecency were commonplace. Adults lived individually in upper castes, with no attachment or feeling attached to routine one night stands. The characterization of the children's actions impacted me the most, it is a bizarre perspective that is shocking and grinds against my moral grain. It just is so immoral in our current society the contrast is stark and shocking.
I was also shocked at how the society treated sex; they wiped out any emotions that went along with it. That is very different than the way our world thinks about it. I find it hard to imagine that happening, especially with the kids. Isn't it weird, though, that even when all of society is conditioned to believe that "everybody belongs to everyone else", there are still people that go against it. Like Lenina- she went out only with Henry way longer than she should have, and she fell in love with John. Do you think that it is impossible to completely eliminate emotions in everybody?
The humanity in the characters breaks through at times, going against the grain of society. The individual differences of the characters just sickens me more, knowing they are fighting against their own feelings for an individual rather than a gender as a whole.
"Civilization is Sterilization." By the end of the book the world controller explained the reasons behind the extreme changes in society. Their goal was to make it so everyone was happy and civilization was stable. 'Make love not war' remember? Well there wasn't any wars going on now, just a lot of meaningless love making.
The society’s views on marriage and families were astonishing. They act like having a baby is disgusting, even indecent. Also, they think monogamous relationships are “wicked and anti-social.” I think this is weird because families are so normal in our world; people don’t think anything is wrong with being a mother or father. Something that impacted me was how the World State eliminated families and feelings between humans; it seems so crazy compared to our world.
This novel completely eliminates the cornerstone of our society: families. Our families shape us as individuals. It is quite shocking for them to despise pregnancy, an event our society holds in high esteem (given that all other conditions of the mother and father are socially acceptable). Guidance is only sourced in hypnosis. Children are not comforted but electrocuted. It is a "crazy" new world.
Their world really is crazy! It was shocking that some of the most important parts of our society are eliminated in this New World.
Rach I completely agree with you. When I read that in the novel I actually laughed. It's funny how our views on things are so different from one time period to another. This novel is basically showing us that cultural views are different when there is a large time gap in between them. The people of the World State see there life style as normal and we see there life style as abnormal. Cultural views is something that will alwasy change in this world. It's a fact of life.
The image in the novel that was most striking to me was how the World State basically developed a caste system. Each caste was brainwashed or "programed" from birth to do a specific task in the community of the World State. Each person that was created (not born) was forced to live a certain life without ever being able to have to chance to move up in the world. They would be stuck doing the exact same thing everyday all the time. With the influence of soma and the brainwashing since birth though made it to where these people did not care. They had no care or worry about it. They were pre-destined to a particular life style and carreer path. It shocked me so much because people should be able to choose there own path in life. It should not be decided for them.
I agree with you! The freedom of individualism is one thing we definitely take for granted. After reading this book, I can definitely say that I am glad that in our world we are able to make our own choices and be ourselves!
I think I can speak for most people when I say almost the entire first part of the book made the most impact on me. Honestly the biggest impact is probably tied between how they condition poor babies to hate books and flowers and how they have young children play "erotic games." It is disgusting in my opinion. The book even references how the bodies twitched as they shocked the babies. I cringed at that part in the book.
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When they talked about how the little boy might have something psychologically wrong with him because he didn't want to play the erotic game I wanted to yell at them. Even worse is when they made fun of how in "history" people would deem it immoral for kids to play those games.
The kids playing games grossed me out. They're little kids! I actually had to read this part two or three times, because I thought I interpreted it wrong. Sometimes my little brain jumps to conclusions! Its disgusting, but I can see their confusion. They programmed them to do those things, so the "computer" must be wrong if they don't play along. The part with books and flowers made me think of them like rats. There's always rats that are experimented to do something similar to that.
The part about conditioning the babies to hate books was one of the wierdest parts of the story. The babies' caste prevented them from learning. The D.HC. wanted to make sure the babies were afraid of books. It is just like when we were kids, and would always eat a specific food all the time, and now we are unable to eat it because we were exposed to it so much as a child.
I completely agree Britt, that really shocked me too. It was crazy that they do that to babies. But I like what you brought up about the foods we ate when we were babies, that's so true
I agree with you, the entire first part of the book just blew my mind, and made my jaw drop because when you think about children playing, you think of hide and go seek or something like that, not some kind of erotic games. I was speechless at that part.
Orgy-porgy! The thing that surprised me most was their replacement god and sexual conduct in society. They've replaced god and any religion with the ideas of Ford. It can reasonably be assumed that they were speaking of Henry Ford by the mass ideals of the T-model and mass production. And to make it so everyone is happy, "everyone belongs to everyone" in both body and mind, but mostly just body.
The image of how women is very shocking in this book. The pleasure that they are allowed to have is only sexual pleasure. The fact that children were encouraged to be sexually active/ to explore each other sexually was repulsive. This impacted me greatly. Today we live in a world that in a way portrays women as nothing but sexual objects. Fashion designers are creating dresses that are ridiculously tight and short. Women are becoming less valuable in our society. This reminds me of even John's mom. She doesnt see anything wrong with having sex with any man or being seen as only a sexual object. In our world women don't see anything wrong with exposing themselves in a very disgusting manner. At a very young age kids of today are also encouraged in a way to explore each other because of the explicit things they see on TV. This book just makes me realize how our world is slowly but surely becoming like the one in "Brave New World". ):
*take out the "how" in the first sentence!
I agree with some points. I got a kick out of the conversation between the two women, because it's not what happens with us. One of them was getting mad at her friend. She told her that she needs to sleep with men and get rid of her steady friend. Over here in our world, we're dealing with people calling others rude and sexual terms. The same went for men in the book. They all need a line of acquaintances or else others will start rumors.
As for designers, I'm not exactly on board with that. I admire Armani, Versace, Dolce and Gabbanna, Michael Kors, and McQueen for their sense of fashion and style. I think they can really make a woman feel beautiful and the clothes are amazing. Some clothes are more revealing, however, there's still a sense of style and sophistication with gowns are everyday wear. It all depends on the season. Afterall, fashion always changes. So I don't believe that they are dressing woman in a trashy way. There's always that element of class. In terms of the book, I can't picture clothes playing a role. I just see plain people acting like machines. I would lose hope just yet.
*wouldnt lose hope.
Right from the beginning of the book Huxley got me. I found it slightly fascinating how these people run that world. The way he described the process of creating humans. They gave some more knowledge than others. Making sure the kids play erotic games(no reference to Madonna), shocking the babies, and the brainwashing. I thought of a world like this before, but reading the book gave me anotherperspective. The lower classes were brainwashed to believe that they're happy and wouldn't choose any other life. I can't call them stupid, because they don't know any better. They were all created to not have feelings. If they did, then the goal of making everyone happy would be messed up to them. The crematory part was weird. Getting people cremated made that world a better place. I thought that was messed up.
I think no one commented on my post, because they're all tired of all my blogs. Little do they know that it's still not going to stop me. Me fellow classmates may have gotten offended from my "no reference to Madonna" sentence. There was no intention of hurting anyone. I just didn't want people to think I was referring to Madonna's album Erotica. Or they took my comment the wrong way. By fascinating I mean that it's amazing how they put everything together. I don't agree with it though. Everyone don't be afraid to disagree with me.
The imge of children laying in bed listening to a "soundtrack" play as their heads are in a pillow.The children were listening to a "soundtrack" on consciousness. The kids were being brain washed with a specific conscience on who they should like and who they should not like. It was just odd that the children learned while sleeping, and once they were done with one subject the "soundtrack" switched to a new topic.
Exactly! They put so much garbage on those "soundtracks". They only wanted them to know that there is no other life and they should always be happy. Soundtracks seem to refer to tranquility, but is not in this case.
I know it stated that you memorize more things when you are sleeping. Just like you are suppose study right before you go to bed, and you will do better on a test. But we all know you don't sleep, so you wouldn't know about that study. It's just crazy that they wanted to dictate how these innocent children should think.
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That's a great point. These people are geniuses. They care so much that they want them to remember for the rest of their lives. To correct you on that, I get 4-5 hours of sleep now. Sometimes I even take five minute power naps. Thank you very much, so I do know of that study. I feel bad for those kids too. I would probably be the person they would try to get rid of if I were part of that world.
The part that most shocked me was when no one could understand why John was so upset when his mother died. Why everyone was so confused with how he felt because they all though death was no big deal, and that it didn't even matter. I was just amazed by how anyone could be confused on how a son feels after his own mother dies.
This shocked me too. The people in the novel seemed to have a lack of empathy and like they were desensitized to emotion.
I was also shocked by this scene too! If they can't even have the right to be sad as humans because of extreme dicatorship, that just shows that they are deprived of the true definition of humanity.
It just makes you wonder how awful a world has to be. A world in which people are unable to understand the compassion a son feels after the death of his own mother.
The thing that struck me the most in the novel was the way sex was viewed. It was quite disturbing to me how they seemed to view it as a pastime and not for conceiving a child. It was also very disturbing to me how there was no sense of relationships; people were encouraged to sleep around.
After reading those people's view of sex I can't begin to imagine how/why the author would even come up with such! I agree with you, it's quite disturbing!
The image that stuck me the most was where the babies would be shocked when going towards books and flowers so they would just learn to hate them and anything that had to do with them
The whole concept of family (or lack of for that matter) was what affected me the most. In the world we live in today family is above all. Everything we do in life revolves around the effects left on our families. To just completely wipe this out was appalling to me.
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